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Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this picture

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:09 pm
by Glenn Matta
I placed a picture in the Picture1 object. When I published the website, it rotate the picture 90 degrees clockwise. I just purchase the WYSIWYG Web Builder version 20, and expect more than a quick like this. Nothing in the help files explains this behavior. What can I do to fix this?

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:17 pm
by BaconFries
I just purchase the WYSIWYG Web Builder version 20, .
and expect more than a quick like this
What do you mean by expect
The software does not rotate the image(s). This is due to how the photo was taken by the camera and the EXIF data contained within the image. So even if you rotate it in the program the EXIF data is read by the browser and displays it as is intended. For example if image (photo) was taken at Landscape and you rotate to Portrait in the program the browser will still return to Landscape due to the mentioned EXIF data in the image (photo).

See the following urls that will explain this better.
https://www.lifewire.com/why-is-my-pict ... ys-1701398
https://www.ivertech.com/Articles/Image ... ws-10.aspx
BaconFries wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 8:58 am
However surely the image should insert to WB in the correct original orientation and allow proportionate resizing?
Please note that the software does not rotate the image(s) they are inserted "AS IS". This is due to how the photo was taken by the camera and the EXIF data contained within the image. So even if you rotate it in the program the EXIF data is read by the browser and displays it as is intended. For example if image (photo) was taken at Landscape and you rotate to Portrait in the program the browser will still return to Landscape due to the mentioned EXIF data in the image (photo).

See the following urls that will explain this better.
https://www.lifewire.com/why-is-my-pict ... ys-1701398
https://www.ivertech.com/Articles/Image ... ws-10.aspx

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Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:45 pm
by Pablo
The software will not rotate images. The images will be published "AS IS", without modification.
So, if the image is displayed rotated in the browser then this may be caused by the EXIF data.

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:59 pm
by rogerl
The annoying thing is that most image programs auto rotate so you don't realise until this situation occurs and sometimes even the image details don't specify either. That's why I kept the Microsoft Office Picture Manager from the Office 2003 suite as it always shows the original orientation the image was taken in and can be fixed there and then. Any other programs?

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:39 am
by Glenn Matta
Thanks. Makes the most sense out of the other responses. I used to use Serif Web Plus X8, which worked great. This one I am finding to be a bit clunkyl

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:04 am
by rogerl
This software requires a bit of study and experimentation to achieve what you're after but once you've got the hang of it and decided how you are going to achieve the end result it will all come together. It's a great piece of software that has been developed over a long period of time to cope with all the developments in the web software area. Sounds like we have come from similar software backgrounds. I've re-written my web site 3 times now and still have not caught up with all the changes Pablo and associates have done. This is a great forum when you need help and you can still add your own html and ccs to pretty things up. Found plenty of help through Goggle & GitHub over the years. I've learnt to never accept "You can't do that" because somewhere out there someone has had the same idea and has published it. Have fun!

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:50 am
by AliGW
Glenn Matta wrote: Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:39 am Thanks. Makes the most sense out of the other responses. I used to use Serif Web Plus X8, which worked great. This one I am finding to be a bit clunkyl
It's not clunky - it's just different.

You have to remember that WPX8 (which I, too, was using until just this year) was designed to create static layouts, whereas WWB is designed for flexible layouts, so you have to gradually change your mindset. There is a learning curve: until you change your way of thinking, it will feel unfamiliar, hence your 'clunky' comment. Once you are more familiar with WWB, you'll be fine, but you have to be prepared to give it time and patience.

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:30 am
by Pablo
But what did you expect to happen?
Would you like the software to automatically modify the image and remove its metadata?
Currently, images are published "as is". Adding an extra processing step could slow down the publishing process and it needs to be done every time, because the original source images will not be modified.

Typically, users optimize their images for the website — including resizing, adding compression, editing metadata — before adding them to a page.

Re: Picture posted in web builder Using picture1 element display 90 degrees from posted picture. How to fix this pictur

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2025 6:48 am
by AliGW
Even with WPX8, the advice always was to optimise images for the web BEFORE adding them to WebPlus (even through WebPlus did a good job of handling it for you if you wanted it to). The only thing I did differently with WebPlus was allow it change image names to a web-friendy format: with WWB I find it easier (better) to handle this myself as part of my optimisation process.

In WebPlus, the default setting was to optimise images for you on the fly, which is why you didn't see this behaviour, I suspect. Had you opted to use the original image, then it may well have come in as it does in WWB.