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Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:36 am
by Billywiz
Hi Pablo, the option to "Render Hidden Objects" does not seem to be working. If I select the option in "View" and hide the object in the Object manager it cannot be seen as a greyed out object.

Cheers

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:56 am
by Pablo
Maybe it's not inside the viewport?

Related FAQ:
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum ... 10&t=82134

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:38 am
by Billywiz
It's when its inside the workspace that it happens, its invisible, if I take the object out of the workspace then it is greyed out.

Cheers

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:46 am
by Pablo
To be able to help you, I need a demo project.

Related FAQ:
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum ... 10&t=82134

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:42 am
by Billywiz

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:29 am
by Pablo
Thanks for the project, but what do I need to do to see the problem?

Note that hidden layout grids will not be render because they are floating, so they have no size when hidden.

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:17 pm
by Billywiz
Select any object, go to object manager and uncheck "Visible", the object is not visible as a greyed out object even though "Render Hiden Objects" is selected.
Check "Visible" in the Object Manager and move the object from the workspace to a blank area and uncheck "Visible" in the object manager, the object can now be seen as a greyed out object.

Cheers

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:53 pm
by Pablo
To which specific object is this related?

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:10 pm
by Billywiz
All of them, Text, Menu and FAQ extension, lt happens to all objects

Cheers

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:31 pm
by Billywiz
I have uploaded a bare bones project. There are two Gomenus, one inside a layout grid and one on its own.
The one inside the layout grid disappears and the one on its own gets greyed out.

http://www.floragraphics.co.uk/hidden3/hidden3.wbs

Cheers

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:37 pm
by Pablo
This is normal behavior.

Floatings elements do not have a size when they are hidden. They are removed from the document flow.
https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_displ ... bility.asp

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:00 am
by Billywiz
Thank you for clarifying that for me.

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:13 am
by Billywiz
Pablo, I think there is a misunderstanding here, I am not talking about hidden objects when published I am talking about the feature to "Render Hidden Objects" within the program.
For example if I create a project and have different breakpoints all with the same objects but I want to remove an object from a breakpoint then I hide that object in that breakpoint but I am still able to see its position in that breakpoint because it is greyed out, isnt that the idea of the Render Hidden Objects choice within the "View" selection



Image

Cheers

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:31 am
by Pablo
Pablo, I think there is a misunderstanding here, I am not talking about hidden objects when published I am talking about the feature to "Render Hidden Objects" within the program.
I was also referring to that.

The option "Render Hidden Objects" is only useful for fixed/absolute layouts. Because only then the object will take up space.
In floating/flexible layouts, hidden objects do not take up space because their size is zero.

Re: Hidden objects

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:50 am
by Billywiz
Thanks Pablo, it's clear now.