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Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:21 pm
by jerryco
I felt lazy, and I have a question, for those who are already into the subject. I have a perfect MP4 file, that allows to be streamed through the HTML5 Video Player (from WB 14). I have it set to fill entire browser window, what I will always want to use.
However, the file is streamed as if compressed on the spot, and the image is far more vague than the MP4 file involved (when opening it in Windows 10).
Local view
Browser view
Anybody got the golden tip?
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:05 am
by Pablo
I think the quality is controlled by the browser. WWB has not control over this.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:01 am
by jerryco
Well, it's vague in three browsers. Will do some research to see if it goes like this with all players. Question Pablo, does the "WWB Video Player" have "Fill the entire browser window" support in WWB now (or 17?). Just curious!
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:26 am
by Pablo
The WWB video player is basically a HTML5 video player but with custom styling. The player itself is standard browser functionality.
So, if you need "Fill the entire browser window" then you can use the HTML5 player instead, because in that case the styling is not needed anyway.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:33 am
by jerryco
Ah that's useful information, thanks.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:42 pm
by jerryco
Just a side question Pablo, are there any new developments in "Video Player" land since version 14? I expected some more options in the Extension Manager. *Is* there even such a thing as a video player that does not use the same specs as HTML5 Video Player? Flash excluded, ofcoarse?
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:49 pm
by Pablo
In modern web design, all video players are based on HTML5. That is the standard.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:32 pm
by jerryco
I should do my own Googling ofcoarse, but hoping to find the video expert in the mean time... Pablo do you think there technically could be a video player with better video quality?
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:43 pm
by crispy68
I don't think in general the html5 video player has any control over the quality. It's more dependent on the the video format and how your video was made and compressed. You may want to convert the video to other formats so that browsers have additional choices.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:55 pm
by jerryco
I find it quite inacceptible that a standard video player does not return input as output. To be complete, the source is a MTS file from my camcorder, turned into "Standard" MPEG-4 with Magix Videodeluxe Premium (great stuff!). This gives me about 30 seconds of video (sharp as you can see in the first screenshot) in only 25,4 MB.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:13 pm
by crispy68
That's great but mpeg4 is not exactly the same thing as mp4. Anytime you compress a video down, there could be a slight loss due to the compression you use. There are different levels of mp4 compression also. A video player just 'plays' the video. It doesn't change the quality of your video.
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:27 pm
by jerryco
But why is the video more vague in the player than on my local system?
Anyway, I'll simply accept it as my trial and error has never resulted in such great (local) quality in such small file size. Waiting for the industry to keep up! Meanwhile, using this, hey, Oct. 10 is my birth day, maybe we have 17 and a new html5 video player by then? Who Knows!
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:12 pm
by BaconFries
maybe we have 17 and a new html5 video player by then
The HTML5 Video player is what it is so I doubt it will be updated. Please remember Pablo did not invent the HTML Player it was only added to the software to allow users to play back videos to which it is the browser that is responsible for how it is rendered.
Some useful reading
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5_video
Re: Self-hosted Premium Video Player
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:14 am
by Pablo
The HTML5 video player functionality is implemented in the browser, not in WWB. I cannot change how it works.
WWB just adds a 'place holder' to the page, so the browser knows where to render the video.
- WWB does not have any video functionality itself. Everything is implemented in the browser.
- WWB does not change the quality of the video. The video will be publish "AS IS"/.
- WWB cannot provide a "NEW" HTML 5 video player. Only browsers can update the player functionality.