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CAPTCHA not stopping email bots

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:18 pm
by BigTexLes
Hello

I am using the CAPTCHA component with WB17 version.

It is setup that the user needs to enter the correct image numbers before the submit button will work.

Visit my real webpage here to see it in action: http://www.uxsoftware.com/pages/ticket.html

Issue, for the support and sales page, I am getting email bots with junk mail. Somehow they are able to bypass the CAPTCHA protection. I added background effect set to "random" to generate random lines, but that does not work on my website. It only shows the standard CAPTCHA image.

Is there any options I can try to do to avoid these email bots. When I call my PHP form, I read the fields and use some validation. Do you know if there is a way I can read the CAPTCHA image data to compare against the data entered in the input field? That could work with my validation.

I really do not want to use the other CAPTCHA options like recaptcha.

Thanks for your help.

Les

Re: CAPTCHA not stopping email bots

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 pm
by BaconFries
Unfortunately it is not just email bots that fill the form and the Captcha there is another bot and that is "Human". There isn't really anything you can do to stop "Human" interaction like a "Nerdy" teenager or anyone infact sitting in front of there Laptop/PC and filling it in for the heck of it.
If you check the email(s) you may see that they originate from the same IP address to which you can then block individually or in blocks. The disadvantage in this is you may block a legitimate user who wishes to contact. I know you don't want or wish to use anything else but it may be worth trying either of the following for better results.
reCAPTCHA v3
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/recaptchav3.html
Invisible reCAPTCHA
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/invis ... ptcha.html
hcaptcha
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/hcaptcha.html

Re: CAPTCHA not stopping email bots

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:25 pm
by Pablo
It does not look like you are using the built-in form processor.
The form seems to be processed on another page (form_ticket.php), so that is probably why the captcha does not work.

Re: CAPTCHA not stopping email bots

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:59 pm
by BigTexLes
Yes, I am using a custom form processor. php. The built-in one you mention, do you have an example of how this works?

Like a webpage I can load to see how to configure.

Thanks

Les

Re: CAPTCHA not stopping email bots

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:20 pm
by BaconFries
Personally you wouldn't gain much from viewing the source html (configuration) of a example as you won't see the php (processor) only the html (inputs) and as each form will have its own configuration to the users need it will be different for you. The following urls will give you a starting point from how to start to any issues that may occur.

Creating a Form and related tutorials
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forms.html

How to use the Form Wizard? and related tutorials
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/form_wizard.html

Forms FAQ
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32967

Re: CAPTCHA not stopping email bots

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:38 pm
by windsurfer
I put a hidden field on my form and in the events i specified oninput Disable Send button and that works except of course when a human is involved.