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Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 11:22 pm
by bjlolmaugh
I am looking for some suggestions on effective ways to stop spamming.
I just implemented some forms, using the built-in PHP processor.
I am using a Honeypot field, and I have a Validation field on the form that requires an exact match.
I believe the main issue is these are more than likely humans spamming the forms, not a spambot, so getting past a validation field, or a captcha code is no obstacle.
Is there anything else I can use to help block these?
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 1:37 am
by wwonderfull
When an actual person is doing it there is nothing much which can be done about this.
But from my perspective making it difficult for bots or spammers also makes it difficult for average humens. But if you still want top security then a server sided otp verification for any emails submitting form can be an option. But that would require custom codes but possible.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 6:11 am
by Pablo
Maybe this is helpful?
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forms_antispam.html
However, if the spam is submitted by a human then it will be difficult to block it.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:58 am
by BaconFries
You can also use the likes of a .htaccess to prevent a range of ip addresses the downside of this is that you can also block legitimate users from using the form to make contact or even access the site or sites.
There is also the possibility to block spam/offensive words phrases being entered into the textarea and they won't be submitted. One method is just javascript the other is using php and having the words stored in a database and called when the form is submitted and blocked. Neither is available and would require a custom solution to work.
Here is an example from codepen.io
https://codepen.io/mcfan/pen/xVVNwy
Another example from jsfiddle test with one or all of the following words crap, ugly, brat, basterddouch
https://jsfiddle.net/raam86/QZW7K/2
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 1:33 pm
by bjlolmaugh
wwonderfull wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 1:37 am
But if you still want top security then a server sided otp verification for any emails submitting form can be an option. But that would require custom codes but possible.
Unfortunately, the hosting company that I use does not support server side verification.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 1:35 pm
by bjlolmaugh
BaconFries wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 9:58 am
You can also use the likes of a .htaccess to prevent a range of ip addresses the downside of this is that you can also block legitimate users from using the form to make contact or even access the site or sites.
I am currently doing this. I always look up the IP Address to see where it is located. If outside the US, I block that IP (all my clients/customers are in the US and do not have an outside of US audience.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:23 pm
by mhinnc
Another idea might be to use a progressive form process, such as not showing the entire form at once. Display it in steps or only after a user clicks a button and/or completes a form field correctly, then move to the next field.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:08 pm
by bjlolmaugh
mhinnc wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:23 pm
Another idea might be to use a progressive form process, such as not showing the entire form at once. Display it in steps or only after a user clicks a button and/or completes a form field correctly, then move to the next field.
I would love to do that ... just got to figure it out.
The only method I was told about to do that is by using the Carousel as each page. I tried that but couldn't figure out how to make that work.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:41 pm
by Pablo
This may be helpful:
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/carouselwizard.html
You can also use the Wizard object to implement multi-step forms.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 2:11 pm
by bjlolmaugh
Pablo wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:41 pm
You can also use the Wizard object to implement multi-step forms.
Is there a tutorial for using the Wizard object?
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:58 pm
by Pablo
There is no tutorial for the wizard, but it's basically works the same as a tab, accordion or other multi-panel container.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:04 pm
by bjlolmaugh
Pablo wrote: Thu Aug 21, 2025 4:58 pm
There is no tutorial for the wizard, but it's basically works the same as a tab, accordion or other multi-panel container.
And that's why I don't use a Multi-Part form .... still don't know how to create it.
Thanks.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:13 pm
by Pablo
Step 1
Add a wizard
Step 2
Add form controls for the first page
Step 3
Click 'Next'
Step 4
Add form controls for the second page
If you need more pages then you add them via the properties.
Re: Effective SPAM block?
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2025 5:30 pm
by bjlolmaugh
Thank you.