setting up basic paypal shopping system

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:21 pm

Is there a tutorial on this? Or a basic description of what is necessary? Is it a matter of setting up a different kind of form?

Patr100 · Post by **Patr100** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:36 pm

bry wrote:Is there a tutorial on this? Or a basic description of what is necessary? Is it a matter of setting up a different kind of form?

Have you looked at the PayPal tools? What don't you understand about them?

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:49 pm

Thanks for asking. I would like a basic description to tell me what I am doing. For instance, Is the whole paypal shopping cart a form?

If not, do the buttons identify my account and item to be purchased?

I'm just not sure how it works. I have about 30 items to sell. One of them will require options - small, medium, large. Other than that, it is simply a matter of how many the customer wants.

My first study of the basic paypal system looks as if the buttons do all the work of identifying the product and the account. But I'm not sure if I'm correct about that. I'm also not sure how that system provides a view of current cart so visitor can see what what they have purchased and how they edit the cart.

Thanks so much for jumping in and being willing to help!!

Post by **Pablo** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:58 pm

Is the whole paypal shopping cart a form?

Yes

Here are some related tutorials:
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/paypal_buynow.html
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/paypal_cart.html
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/webshop.html
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=57726

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:04 pm

For instance, Is the whole paypal shopping cart a form?

Yes each PayOal button is a form of its own.

If not, do the buttons identify my account and item to be purchased?

Yes it will identify your acccount as you will enter your PayPal details (email)

I'm just not sure how it works. I have about 30 items to sell. One of them will require options - small, medium, large. Other than that, it is simply a matter of how many the customer wants.

This can be done by adding Comboboxes one for sizes one foe amout on the page, then including them in the PayPay buttons propties which will make them part of the button form.

Adding a PayPal Buy Now button to your website
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/paypal_buynow.html
Creating a basic PayPal Shopping Cart
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/paypal_cart.html
Building a PHP Shopping Cart using WYSIWYG Web Builder
http://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/webshop.html

Take a look at this button (Custom) code that will give you a insite t a button using more than one combobox that allows the user to select what they need
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=60648&p=302235&hilit=zinc#p302235

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:20 pm

support wrote:
Is the whole paypal shopping cart a form?
Yes

If the whole cart is a form, then the buttons are part of the main form?
Also, since the cart is a form, I assume the page is php?
I have a page with all the items already on it. Do I add a form to include all of the items or use a separate form for each item (that I am selling)?

thanks!!

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:22 pm

BaconFries wrote:
For instance, Is the whole paypal shopping cart a form?
Yes each PayOal button is a form of its own.

If not, do the buttons identify my account and item to be purchased?
Yes it will identify your acccount as you will enter your PayPal details (email)

I'm just not sure how it works. I have about 30 items to sell. One of them will require options - small, medium, large. Other than that, it is simply a matter of how many the customer wants.
This can be done by adding Comboboxes one for sizes one foe amout on the page, then including them in the PayPay buttons propties which will make them part of the button form.

Take a look at this button (Custom) code that will give you a insite t a button using more than one combobox that allows the user to select what they need
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=60648&p=302235&hilit=zinc#p302235

Thanks much. I will be studying this for a couple of hours, then may have question.

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:49 pm

Thanks BaconFries,

So is each item that I am selling separate forms with buttons on each one? Or is the whole page one form with buttons on the single form?

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:36 pm

Patr100 wrote:
bry wrote:Is there a tutorial on this? Or a basic description of what is necessary? Is it a matter of setting up a different kind of form?
Have you looked at the PayPal tools? What don't you understand about them?

The main thing I don't understand about the paypal tools is that they just seem to add buttons. Do I have to have the page form set up first? Or do the buttons do it all?

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:37 pm

I was just looking at an old website and the products page is an htm page (not a php page). I was thinking that a shopping cart page would need to be php.

thanks

Patr100 · Post by **Patr100** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:42 pm

bry wrote:
Patr100 wrote:
bry wrote:Is there a tutorial on this? Or a basic description of what is necessary? Is it a matter of setting up a different kind of form?
Have you looked at the PayPal tools? What don't you understand about them?
The main thing I don't understand about the paypal tools is that they just seem to add buttons. Do I have to have the page form set up first? Or do the buttons do it all?

Have you actually tried them yet? You asked for Basic, they are basic PayPal tools. You just add them and then edit the properties so they are not "just buttons" or images. Anything more then read what the others have posted.

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:56 pm

I am adding all the buttons now. It is taking awhile so I haven't tested them yet.

thanks

bry · Post by **bry** » Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:24 pm

I'm still tweaking but the last item before beads isn't working for light, medium dark. I obviously missed something there.

thanks for any help and for all the help to get this going!!!

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:56 am

Any help on fixing this one item?? I need to make the choice Light, Medium or Dark.

thanks

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:02 am

Hi bry please double check your button settinfgs it looks like you have accidently set one to use the"Sandbox" this setting is just fortesting your button before actuall publishing live....
Both of these are set to use "Sandbox"
"Example of Black and white Rhythm Beads with silver bells and cross Rhythm Beads."
"Donne & Cavalli Tinted Moisturizer with Advanced Protection SPF 20
For Face & Body - $25.00"

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:47 am

HI BaconFries,

You are a true friend, a brother. Thanks. I did leave the sandbox checked by mistake on those two. However, I just fixed and I still can't select light, medium or dark on the one item.

So I still have a problem.

Thanks so much!!!

bry · Post by **bry** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:19 pm

I am trying to figure out how to make the shipping and handling work out. I would like for products that are 1 to 7 ounces charge $7.00 for first item and $3.00 for each item after that on same order? for 16.9 ounces will be $13 for first item and $5.00 for each item added on same package?

Is there a way to do that?

thanks

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:59 pm

Ok bry lets try this...
In the cart button go to Shipping
Shipping and Handling
Set the Base shipping to 0.00 (This wont be called)
Extra shipping set this to 3.00 (this is the secondry hadling cost you need)
Now we need to add a "New Variable" here we are going to set the "First" handling cost, so we go to
Extra Variables in the Edit Hidden Field we set as follows
Name: handling_cart
Value:7.00
Click ok to close and this will give you the effect that you are wanting. If the buyer only adds 1 item to the cart, the total shipping would show as 7.00, 2 items would show as 10.00, 3 items would show as 13.00 and so on. Hope this is what your meaning....

bry · Post by **bry** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:02 am

BaconFries wrote:Ok bry lets try this...
In the cart button go to Shipping
Shipping and Handling
Set the Base shipping to 0.00 (This wont be called)
Extra shipping set this to 3.00 (this is the secondry hadling cost you need)
Now we need to add a "New Variable" here we are going to set the "First" handling cost, so we go to
Extra Variables in the Edit Hidden Field we set as follows
Name: handling_cart
Value:7.00
Click ok to close and this will give you the effect that you are wanting. If the buyer only adds 1 item to the cart, the total shipping would show as 7.00, 2 items would show as 10.00, 3 items would show as 13.00 and so on. Hope this is what your meaning....

Hi BaconFries,

I follow you until you say to "need to add a "New Variable" here we are going to set the "First" handling cost, so we go to
Extra Variables in the Edit Hidden Field". I right click on PayPal ADD TO CART" and see under Shipping Base shipping and Extra shipping. But I do not see the others. Here is a snagit showing Options tap open but you can see the other tabs I see. Where is what you are suggesting?

thanks

paypal add to cart.jpg

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:14 am

See the following

bryppextravariables.gif

bry · Post by **bry** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:24 am

Thanks BaconFries,

How come yours looks different from mine?

thanks

bry · Post by **bry** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:27 am

Can you show me what the shipping tab looks like?

thanks

bry · Post by **bry** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:34 am

BaconFries wrote:See the following

bryppextravariables.gif

Does it matter what is written in the variable? Can it be "handling_charge"?

thanks

bry · Post by **bry** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:49 am

bry wrote:
BaconFries wrote:See the following

bryppextravariables.gif
Does it matter what is written in the variable? Can it be "handling_charge"?

thanks

I do not see image.

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:03 am

No from memory it must be handling_cart as this cost of the handing for the cart ie the PayPal button which is related to this line of code from the cart
<input type="hidden" name="cmd" value=" _cart">

My image looks different as I am using Windows 7 Premimum.

bryshipping.gif

bry · Post by **bry** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:29 am

Thanks BaconFries!!! Big help!!!

bry · Post by **bry** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:31 am

My client tells me that when 4 items are ordered, it requires a box that cost $17 to send to US. Is there a way to make PayPal charge $17 for 4 items?

thanks

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:37 am

This may be possible but will require programming. I believe that this is something that you or your client will have to setup via the PayPal account. Please dont quote me on this the following is from PayPal themselves looking for •Total item quantity (flat rate)

To set up shipping calculations:
1.Go to the PayPal website and log in to your account.
2.Click "Profile" at the top of the page.
3.Click the "Shipping Calculations" link in the "Selling Preferences" column.
You can configure domestic or international shipping methods with these options:
•Total order amount (flat rate or percent rate)
•Total order weight (lbs or kg)
•Total item quantity (flat rate)

bry · Post by **bry** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:56 pm

How can I use this system to charge $5 per item and a flat rate of $10 for shipping?

thanks BaconFries!!!!

adex1 · Post by **adex1** » Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:34 pm

bry wrote:My client tells me that when 4 items are ordered, it requires a box that cost $17 to send to US. Is there a way to make PayPal charge $17 for 4 items?

thanks

As BF said customizing programming is needed. But you try this ready made template with your WB

viewtopic.php?f=49&t=61012

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:29 am

I have set the base to 5 (postage) and extra to 5 (postage) and extra variable to 10 for flat rate handling (cost of box). That works for a single item. For instance, if someone buys 4 of one thing, the charge is $5 x 4 for each for shipping and a flat rate of $10 for a total of $30.

But if a person buys 4 different items, the charge is only $5 which is not right. Sheesh. This is driving me crazy.

Navaldesign · Post by **Navaldesign** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:10 am

There is no way to do this with PayPal's cart, to my knowledge.

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:08 pm

Ok, thanks everyone!

Navaldesign · Post by **Navaldesign** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:40 pm

The only way I know of doing this is by using the Webshop Plus, which allows for shipping based on quantity, than having a "Handling" charge.

So you could set in example $5 per item, plus $10 for Handling, which gets you to the result you want to acheive.

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:10 pm

Is there any way that the basic system can charge a flat rate per order? Like $13 per order would be fine.

Thanks much!!!

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:35 pm

bry please take a look at this demo .wbs. It uses 4 paypal buttons each one has its own price for item it also has its own shipping for each button. I have set each item button to show price and shipping try this out and let me know if it is what yiou were asking about.... Note you will need the latest build of WB9 to open tis...

brydemopaypal.zip

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:59 pm

Thanks very much BaconFries. I really appreciate all your help.

Is it possible to just make this system charge $13 per order for S&H = no matter the number of items???

bry · Post by **bry** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:55 pm

Based on your info, BaconFries, I juggled some different costs - base, plus extra plus handling_cart and have it about right. Close enough the client says. I could not have done it without you!!!

thanks big time

BaconFries · Post by **BaconFries** » Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:53 am