Greetings,
I am getting spam on a form which has the recaptchav2. It also appears the spam is bypassing a required constraint for the message field to have at least 40 characters. I have checked the recaptcha and its functional as well as the validation constraint for 40 characters. Any thoughts how this could happen? and what would be a way to prevent it.
Form Spam
Re: Form Spam
Is reCaptcha part of the form?
Note that reCaptcha is a service of Google, so I have no control over the way it works.
Also note that validation is not a restriction, but rather a guideline for the user.
For example, it is possible to bypass JavaScript via the browser's debugger.
Note that reCaptcha is a service of Google, so I have no control over the way it works.
Also note that validation is not a restriction, but rather a guideline for the user.
For example, it is possible to bypass JavaScript via the browser's debugger.
Re: Form Spam
Recaptachav2 is part of the form. When I don't click the check box it sends me to the recaptcha failure page.
Re: Form Spam
Looking at the data in the name field, I think its the same bot. Its just repeating 5a579xxx, The IP addresses are all TOR exit nodes.
Values submitted from web site form:
IP Address : 51.15.34.214
Referer : xocomputers.com/index.html
Name : 5a5799c4f3c56
Email : treading@applied.com
Phone :
Message :
Values submitted from web site form:
IP Address : 93.115.95.205
Referer : xocomputers.com/index.html
Name : 5a579bd48461d
Email : kingsley.asanji@yahoo.com
Phone :
Message :
Values submitted from web site form:
IP Address : 176.10.104.240
Referer : xocomputers.com/index.html
Name : 5a579bdc32260
Email : lynneofivory@yahoo.com
Phone :
Message :
Values submitted from web site form:
IP Address : 51.15.34.214
Referer : xocomputers.com/index.html
Name : 5a5799c4f3c56
Email : treading@applied.com
Phone :
Message :
Values submitted from web site form:
IP Address : 93.115.95.205
Referer : xocomputers.com/index.html
Name : 5a579bd48461d
Email : kingsley.asanji@yahoo.com
Phone :
Message :
Values submitted from web site form:
IP Address : 176.10.104.240
Referer : xocomputers.com/index.html
Name : 5a579bdc32260
Email : lynneofivory@yahoo.com
Phone :
Message :
Re: Form Spam
Maybe the messages were sent manually?
Or maybe you have another form on the website without recaptcha?
Or maybe you have another form on the website without recaptcha?
Re: Form Spam
The normal captcha seems to work on for me - for the sites that have it. Adding it back to the ones that don't to cut down on spam.
As an alternative - I wonder if it is possible to add a field that is hidden from the user but is set up to "require" that the field be empty. So if a robot tries to fill out the form it will want to fill in this field and the form won't work. Have not tried it myself but Thoughts?
I do assume there are a number of seo spammers who go to website portfolios and manually spam all the sites on there. Gotta get fancy to filter those out.
As an alternative - I wonder if it is possible to add a field that is hidden from the user but is set up to "require" that the field be empty. So if a robot tries to fill out the form it will want to fill in this field and the form won't work. Have not tried it myself but Thoughts?
I do assume there are a number of seo spammers who go to website portfolios and manually spam all the sites on there. Gotta get fancy to filter those out.
The Website Guy - MN
Small Business Web Design
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Re: Form Spam
That was my first thought. I checked for it, nope its the only form, besides the php code has the captcha requirement. I was looking for a way to get the captcha response in a hidden field on the form so I could trace if the captcha was even executed.
I have heard some of chatter of "headless" browsers, where they can directly call the script and pass all the fields and in doing that sending a false value for the captcha.
Re: Form Spam
Great idea! I will try the alternative. Still getting a few spams from the same bot. Thanks.Rob wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:02 pm The normal captcha seems to work on for me - for the sites that have it. Adding it back to the ones that don't to cut down on spam.
As an alternative - I wonder if it is possible to add a field that is hidden from the user but is set up to "require" that the field be empty. So if a robot tries to fill out the form it will want to fill in this field and the form won't work. Have not tried it myself but Thoughts?
I do assume there are a number of seo spammers who go to website portfolios and manually spam all the sites on there. Gotta get fancy to filter those out.
Re: Form Spam
Adding a hidden required field didn't not work. It prevented the form from submission and kept asking to complete the hidden field. Back to the drawing board.
Re: Form Spam
is the field "required to be empty" "data required" checked yes, min = 0, max = 0. Pablo, thoughts?
The Website Guy - MN
Small Business Web Design
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Re: Form Spam
If you make it required you have to add a value. I just created an editbox, called it LastName, hid it, made it required, changed the min characters to 1 and the max characters to 1. Even added an initial value.
It still threw an error, that lastname needs to be filled.
It still threw an error, that lastname needs to be filled.
Re: Form Spam
I think that spammers are able to bypass any client side validation. I know they are going the script because I get their ip addresses from the script, but somehow they are only executing half the script, since the script also checks for the captcha validation and they bypass it.
Re: Form Spam
Input validation uses JavaScript, so this can be bypassed.
Captcha is validated on the server (via PHP) this does not use JavaScript and they should not be able to bypass this unless there is a problem with reCaptcha (Google).
But if this was a known issue then you would expect that Google had already fixed this my now.
Captcha is validated on the server (via PHP) this does not use JavaScript and they should not be able to bypass this unless there is a problem with reCaptcha (Google).
But if this was a known issue then you would expect that Google had already fixed this my now.
Re: Form Spam
I cannot tell if they are going through captcha or not, maybe they validated once as a human and then have script which just checks the box. I tried to get around the captcha but could not.
How do I add a custom code validation after the ValidateEmail in the code snippet below for index.html? I couldn't find a hook in the ide to do any type server side validation. I will simply check if the message field has at least 40 characters , if not just kick it back.
$boundary = md5(uniqid(time()));
$header = 'From: '.$mailfrom.$eol;
$header .= 'Reply-To: '.$mailfrom.$eol;
$header .= 'MIME-Version: 1.0'.$eol;
$header .= 'Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="'.$boundary.'"'.$eol;
$header .= 'X-Mailer: PHP v'.phpversion().$eol;
if (!ValidateEmail($mailfrom))
{
$error .= "The specified email address is invalid!\n<br>";
}
if (!empty($error))
{
$errorcode = file_get_contents($error_url);
$replace = "##error##";
$errorcode = str_replace($replace, $error, $errorcode);
echo $errorcode;
exit;
}
How do I add a custom code validation after the ValidateEmail in the code snippet below for index.html? I couldn't find a hook in the ide to do any type server side validation. I will simply check if the message field has at least 40 characters , if not just kick it back.
$boundary = md5(uniqid(time()));
$header = 'From: '.$mailfrom.$eol;
$header .= 'Reply-To: '.$mailfrom.$eol;
$header .= 'MIME-Version: 1.0'.$eol;
$header .= 'Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="'.$boundary.'"'.$eol;
$header .= 'X-Mailer: PHP v'.phpversion().$eol;
if (!ValidateEmail($mailfrom))
{
$error .= "The specified email address is invalid!\n<br>";
}
if (!empty($error))
{
$errorcode = file_get_contents($error_url);
$replace = "##error##";
$errorcode = str_replace($replace, $error, $errorcode);
echo $errorcode;
exit;
}
Re: Form Spam
You can add custom code to the form via 'Custom Form Processing'.
See also the info in the help.
See also the info in the help.
Re: Form Spam
Custom Form Processing Property is not available when you use the form property on the layout grid. I will recreate the form separately and then move it into position.
I think that property should be visible. They both should descend from the same object.
I think that property should be visible. They both should descend from the same object.
Re: Form Spam
Pablo,
I can add the form created by the form wizard on a Layer but not on a layout grid. It does not snap in. I cannot find the custom processing tab for a layout grid embedded form. Are there any advance option flags which I need to set?
My entire site is built with Layout Grids so its natural to use the embedded form.
I can add the form created by the form wizard on a Layer but not on a layout grid. It does not snap in. I cannot find the custom processing tab for a layout grid embedded form. Are there any advance option flags which I need to set?
My entire site is built with Layout Grids so its natural to use the embedded form.
Re: Form Spam
You cannot place a form on a layer or inside a layout grid.
But the layer/layout grid can be a form itself. In HTML you cannot nest forms.
See the FAQ:
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum ... 10&t=71391
But the layer/layout grid can be a form itself. In HTML you cannot nest forms.
See the FAQ:
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum ... 10&t=71391
Re: Form Spam
Agreed, my form is inside the layout grid, how do I get to the custom form processing tab? I right clicked in the from area, it does not show the custom form processing tab. This is what I see,Pablo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:35 pm You cannot place a form on a layer or inside a layout grid.
But the layer/layout grid can be a form itself. In HTML you cannot nest forms.
See the FAQ:
https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/forum ... 10&t=71391
Re: Form Spam
I'm sorry, Layout Grids do not support this functionality. It is currently only available for standard forms.
If you wish to implement more advanced form processing then you will have to create your own script.
But I think you first have to make sure that the issue is really related to recaptcha.
It would really surprise me if recaptcha could be bypassed this easily. Millions of websites use this service. It would be complete useless if it didn't work, right?
Maybe something else is wrong?
Did try to rename the page? Does the spam stop in that case?
If you wish to implement more advanced form processing then you will have to create your own script.
But I think you first have to make sure that the issue is really related to recaptcha.
It would really surprise me if recaptcha could be bypassed this easily. Millions of websites use this service. It would be complete useless if it didn't work, right?
Maybe something else is wrong?
Did try to rename the page? Does the spam stop in that case?
Re: Form Spam
Pablo, what is the difference between captcha and recaptcha. I've always used captcha and it seems to be pretty ok at filtering out robot spam.
The Website Guy - MN
Small Business Web Design
Small Business Web Design
Re: Form Spam
The built-in captcha WWB's own captcha script.what is the difference between captcha and recaptcha.
reCaptcha uses Google's 'Recaptcha' service:
https://www.google.com/recaptcha
Re: Form Spam
Pablo, I have one website that uses the built in captcha. No spam on that at all. That was my first baby step, decided to use the more advanced recaptcacha on the other website, and getting spammed.
I am going to delete the website, rename the index page and re-publish. See if that fixes the issue.
I am going to delete the website, rename the index page and re-publish. See if that fixes the issue.
Re: Form Spam
Six hours and no spam mail since i changed the name of the page.
Re: Form Spam
Spoke too soon. Spammed again this morning.
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Re: Form Spam
I dont think it will matter which you use captcha or reCaptcha if a 'Human' and not a 'Bot' wishes to sit and spam you all day long then they will. Even if you change the page name they still know your site url so they can still access your site and manually fill the form. There are other ways you can try such as implementing a 'Honey Pot' or using a .htaccess to block IP addresses. All of this is not related to the use of the program in anyway there is one simple way and that is not to have a contact form or a link to a contact email but then that defeats the purpose of what you require.
Re: Form Spam
What is the PHP code of the page?
Maybe something is wrong with the logic of the page?
Maybe something is wrong with the logic of the page?
Re: Form Spam
<?php
require_once './ReCaptcha/ReCaptcha.php';
require_once './ReCaptcha/RequestMethod.php';
require_once './ReCaptcha/RequestParameters.php';
require_once './ReCaptcha/Response.php';
require_once './ReCaptcha/RequestMethod/Post.php';
require_once './ReCaptcha/RequestMethod/Socket.php';
require_once './ReCaptcha/RequestMethod/SocketPost.php';
if (isset($_POST['g-recaptcha-response']))
{
$recaptcha = new \ReCaptcha\ReCaptcha("SECRET");
$response = $recaptcha->verify($_POST['g-recaptcha-response'], $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']);
if (!$response->isSuccess())
{
header('Location: ./captchafailure.html');
exit;
}
}
function ValidateEmail($email)
{
$pattern = '/^([0-9a-z]([-.\w]*[0-9a-z])*@(([0-9a-z])+([-\w]*[0-9a-z])*\.)+[a-z]{2,6})$/i';
return preg_match($pattern, $email);
}
function ReplaceVariables($code)
{
foreach ($_POST as $key => $value)
{
if (is_array($value))
{
$value = implode(",", $value);
}
$name = "$" . $key;
$code = str_replace($name, $value, $code);
}
$code = str_replace('$ipaddress', $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'], $code);
return $code;
}
if ($_SERVER['REQUEST_METHOD'] == 'POST' && isset($_POST['formid']) && $_POST['formid'] == 'layoutgrid8')
{
$mailto = 'formsender@xocomputers.com';
$mailfrom = isset($_POST['email']) ? $_POST['email'] : $mailto;
$subject = 'Website form';
$message = 'Values submitted from web site form:';
$success_url = './emailsuccess.html';
$error_url = './emailfailure.html';
$error = '';
$eol = "\n";
$boundary = md5(uniqid(time()));
$header = 'From: '.$mailfrom.$eol;
$header .= 'Reply-To: '.$mailfrom.$eol;
$header .= 'MIME-Version: 1.0'.$eol;
$header .= 'Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="'.$boundary.'"'.$eol;
$header .= 'X-Mailer: PHP v'.phpversion().$eol;
if (!ValidateEmail($mailfrom))
{
$error .= "The specified email address is invalid!\n<br>";
}
if (!empty($error))
{
$errorcode = file_get_contents($error_url);
$replace = "##error##";
$errorcode = str_replace($replace, $error, $errorcode);
echo $errorcode;
exit;
}
$internalfields = array ("submit", "reset", "send", "filesize", "formid", "captcha_code", "recaptcha_challenge_field", "recaptcha_response_field", "g-recaptcha-response");
$message .= $eol;
$message .= "IP Address : ";
$message .= $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
$message .= $eol;
$message .= "Referer : ";
$message .= $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'];
$message .= $_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
$message .= $eol;
$logdata = '';
foreach ($_POST as $key => $value)
{
if (!in_array(strtolower($key), $internalfields))
{
if (!is_array($value))
{
$message .= ucwords(str_replace("_", " ", $key)) . " : " . $value . $eol;
}
else
{
$message .= ucwords(str_replace("_", " ", $key)) . " : " . implode(",", $value) . $eol;
}
}
}
$body = 'This is a multi-part message in MIME format.'.$eol.$eol;
$body .= '--'.$boundary.$eol;
$body .= 'Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1'.$eol;
$body .= 'Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit'.$eol;
$body .= $eol.stripslashes($message).$eol;
if (!empty($_FILES))
{
foreach ($_FILES as $key => $value)
{
if ($_FILES[$key]['error'] == 0)
{
$body .= '--'.$boundary.$eol;
$body .= 'Content-Type: '.$_FILES[$key]['type'].'; name='.$_FILES[$key]['name'].$eol;
$body .= 'Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64'.$eol;
$body .= 'Content-Disposition: attachment; filename='.$_FILES[$key]['name'].$eol;
$body .= $eol.chunk_split(base64_encode(file_get_contents($_FILES[$key]['tmp_name']))).$eol;
}
}
}
$body .= '--'.$boundary.'--'.$eol;
if ($mailto != '')
{
mail($mailto, $subject, $body, $header);
}
$successcode = file_get_contents($success_url);
$successcode = ReplaceVariables($successcode);
echo $successcode;
exit;
}
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<span style="color:#696969;font-family:Arial;font-size:21px;"><strong>Services<br></strong></span><span style="color:#696969;font-family:Arial;font-size:16px;"><em>Learn all about our multi-tiered services</em></span>
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<span style="color:#696969;"><strong>Websites<br></strong><br>Creating a website requires an investment of ideas, vision and skills. At XOComputers we use our skills to convert your ideas and deliver on your vision. A website is the face of your business to the outside world of markets and customers, wheather you choose a template or require a completely unique design our attention to detail remains the same. Call us today for a free evaluation of your needs. </span>
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<span style="color:#696969;"><strong>Technology<br></strong><br>Be it hardware or software, a home based business, or a personal computer we have the experience and the knowledge to resolve any issue within an acceptable timeframe. We implement and support end-to-end technology solutions on desktops, laptops, tablets, tabs, handheld, networks, servers, or cloud solutions. Where a technical staff position can run over $100,000+ per year, we can provide the same for a lot less. Look up our plans and call us. We can tailor our services to meet your needs.</span>
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<span style="color:#000000;"><strong>XOComputers Privacy Policy<br></strong><br><strong>What information do we collect?<br></strong>We collect information from you when you register on our site, place an order, subscribe to our newsletter, respond to a survey or fill out a form. When ordering or registering on our site, as appropriate, you may be asked to enter your: name, e-mail address, mailing address or phone number. You may, however, visit our site anonymously.<br><br><strong>What do we use your information for?<br></strong>Any of the information we collect from you may be used in one of the following ways: To process transactions Your information, whether public or private, will not be sold, exchanged, transferred, or given to any other company for any reason whatsoever, without your consent, other than for the express purpose of delivering the purchased product or service requested. To send periodic emails The email address you provide for order processing, may be used to send you information and updates pertaining to your order, in addition to receiving occasional company news, updates, related product or service information, etc. Note: If at any time you would like to unsubscribe from receiving future emails, we include detailed unsubscribe instructions at the bottom of each email.<br><br><strong>How do we protect your information?<br></strong>We implement a variety of security measures to maintain the safety of your personal information when you place an order or enter, submit, or access your personal information.<br><br><strong>Do we use cookies?<br></strong>We do not use cookies.<br><br><strong>Do we disclose any information to outside parties?<br></strong>We do not sell, trade, or otherwise transfer to outside parties your personally identifiable information. This does not include trusted third parties who assist us in operating our website, conducting our business, or servicing you, so long as those parties agree to keep this information confidential. We may also release your information when we be
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<span style="color:#000000;"><strong>TERMS OF USE</strong><br>Welcome to our online website! XOCOMPUTERS and its associates provide their services to you subject to the following terms and conditions. If you visit this website, you accept the conditions listed here. Read carefully. <br><br><br><strong>PRIVACY</strong><br>We take privacy seriously. Our Privacy Notice governs your interaction with this website, including this visit. We urge you to read the Privacy Notice to better understand our policies. <br><br><br><strong>ELECTRONIC COMMUNICATIONS</strong><br>When you visit XOCOMPUTERS or send e-mails to us, you are communicating with us electronically. You consent to receive communications from us electronically. We will communicate with you by e-mail or by posting notices on this site. You agree that all agreements, notices, disclosures and other communications that we provide to you electronically satisfy any legal requirement that such communications be in writing.<br><br><br><strong>COPYRIGHT</strong><br>All content included on this site, such as text, graphics, logos, button icons, images, audio clips, digital downloads, data compilations, and software, is the property of XOCOMPUTERS or its content suppliers and protected by international copyright laws. The compilation of all content on this site is the exclusive property of XOCOMPUTERS, with copyright authorship for this collection by XOCOMPUTERS, and protected by international copyright laws.<br><br><br><strong>TRADE MARKS</strong><br>XOCOMPUTERS's trademarks and trade dress may not be used in connection with any product or service that is not XOCOMPUTERS's, in any manner that is likely to cause confusion among customers, or in any manner that disparages or discredits XOCOMPUTERS. All other trademarks not owned by XOCOMPUTERS or its subsidiaries that appear on this site are the property of their respective owners, who may or may not be affiliated with, connected to, or sponsored by XOCOMPUTERS or its subsidiaries.<br><br><br><strong>LICENSE AND SITE AC
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Re: Form Spam
The code looks correct.
As far as I can see there is no way to bypass the captcha check for this form.
As far as I can see there is no way to bypass the captcha check for this form.
Re: Form Spam
My next step is to add validation for the Message field on the server and capturing the captcha response. Currently the spammers are leaving the message field blank, bypassing the client validation.
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For what it is worth, I have discontinued using Google reCAPTCHA V2 and invisible. They no longer work for me. The WB CAPTCHA blocks everything.
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Thanks. Planning on doing that. Got slammed today with spam.
http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/56 ... cking.html
There is actually a paper on how to break the captacha by using the Googles' voice recognition api to solve the captcha.
“Let’s download the audio file and send it to Google Speech Recognition API. Before doing so, we will convert it to a ‘wav’ format, which is requested by Google’s Speech Recognition API. Now we have the audio challenge file and are ready to send it to Google Speech Recognition. How can this be done? Using (Google’s own) API,” continues the post.
And there is pay service
http://www.solverecaptcha.com/
http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/56 ... cking.html
There is actually a paper on how to break the captacha by using the Googles' voice recognition api to solve the captcha.
“Let’s download the audio file and send it to Google Speech Recognition API. Before doing so, we will convert it to a ‘wav’ format, which is requested by Google’s Speech Recognition API. Now we have the audio challenge file and are ready to send it to Google Speech Recognition. How can this be done? Using (Google’s own) API,” continues the post.
And there is pay service
http://www.solverecaptcha.com/
Re: Form Spam
@protectourlands
thanks for the info about google, i didnt know about such an issue! do you mean that even google team were not able to fight effectively against spam!?
thanks for the info about google, i didnt know about such an issue! do you mean that even google team were not able to fight effectively against spam!?
Re: Form Spam
Ok. I got a simple “are you human” QnA to work. Set a field required to 1 – be a number under general, 2 - validate default as a number and equal to the correct answer, 3 – set condition to allow the send button to work only when answer is correct. I think it worked with human entry. I am hoping this works with robot spam. Thoughts?
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Re: Form Spam
rob, i did my own captcha, fortunately i'm not so famous as google guys, so robots did not pay attention to my existence and they did not discover my formulas 
-- seems they are a bit complex at the moment...
i think what you did should be enough, but i was in the urgent need to resolve it in a different way and helped me a lot against spam
-- seems they are a bit complex at the moment...i think what you did should be enough, but i was in the urgent need to resolve it in a different way and helped me a lot against spam
Re: Form Spam
I think any solution widely used will be widely vulnerable. A custom solution will probably work better as fewer people will focus on breaking it. But does it still have the same level of confidence when talking to clients. They all want that shiny google captcha.
I am thinking of a combination, invisible captcha followed by a server side validation.
I am thinking of a combination, invisible captcha followed by a server side validation.
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RZ@protectourlands
thanks for the info about google, i didnt know about such an issue! do you mean that even google team were not able to fight effectively against spam!?
Several months ago I began receiving spam through V2 and Invisible when it hadn't been getting through previously. To me it seemed the bad guys figured out a way through. I internet searched this and didn't find anything, so I concluded Google didn't want this public until they could fix it. I never filed a ticket and always hoped it would get resolved. I switched back to WB CAPTCHA.
A few weeks ago I had a client complain about the complexity of "repeat these characters" WB CAPTCHA in a simple email newsletter signup form. I tried V2 again and no luck. I tried Invisible again and no luck. I even tried a hidden field and a javascript, hoping the spammers could not parse js and that didn't work. The client eventually had me remove the form.
In conclusion, the only way I have been able to absolutely prevent spam is to use WB CAPTCHA "Repeat These Characters". I was searching through the forum yesterday and found this string stating what appeared to be the same experience I had with V2 and Invisible. I don't believe I was installing the Google systems wrong, but I suppose anything is possible.
I see forms on the net all the time that do not use upfront CAPTCHA. I have read several articles on how this could be done but have no idea if they are effective. I did try the hidden field/js method and that did not work for me. I am open to any recommendations.
Re: Form Spam
i think magical is correct, nothing is not vulnerable at all, as we are dealing also with humans (a weird specimen sometimes) and in that case they qualify as non-robots and if they want can manually spam all the time
so i have a combination/variant of more than one technique
fortunately spam has stopped -- but idiots are smart driving you crazy, unfortunately they are beyond of the captcha algorithm because there is nothing we can do with people with too much spare time
so i have a combination/variant of more than one technique
fortunately spam has stopped -- but idiots are smart driving you crazy, unfortunately they are beyond of the captcha algorithm because there is nothing we can do with people with too much spare time
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how true i find this assertion!I concluded Google didn't want this public until they could fix it
private solutions are not the first target, i agree with this also (and this is the main reason why i opted for a private one, in my personal case i wrote my own captcha and silent captcha, fortunately it works, however i think if you already found a way and it works, do not change it unless you are searching for something different or specific to your scheme)
captcha is so catchy... so you need discrete ways to protect your forms
in just few words i agree with you
Re: Form Spam
I really appreciate everyone's support and sharing your experience. Together we can only become stronger and better. I am learning more about captcha then i ever thought i would need.
A friend suggested I get a new sitekey and secret key. So I am going to give it one more shot, otherwise I will just keep the captcha as a honey pot and roll out my own solution underneath. Having it on the form will satisfy a key client requirement, having my own solution underneath will get me out of the clean up mess.
For the future it would be nice if WWB have an option to save the captcha response and send it in the email. Or have a choice between server side validation and client side validation fields, and "fake" required fields which are hidden and appear to scripts as required but should actually be blank.
A friend suggested I get a new sitekey and secret key. So I am going to give it one more shot, otherwise I will just keep the captcha as a honey pot and roll out my own solution underneath. Having it on the form will satisfy a key client requirement, having my own solution underneath will get me out of the clean up mess.
For the future it would be nice if WWB have an option to save the captcha response and send it in the email. Or have a choice between server side validation and client side validation fields, and "fake" required fields which are hidden and appear to scripts as required but should actually be blank.
Re: Form Spam
forget the "fake" required fields, this is pretty outdated... since some time ago robots already know this
Re: Form Spam
btw, forgot to mention, captcha should be constantly checked... (not an easy job, do not expect too much from freebies solutions)
Re: Form Spam
Thanks for all the suggestions. I had a discussion with my ISP. Fortunately and I mean big time fortunately, there was an experienced guy manning the phones, and he asked me to make some changes.
1 - Have a custom script for submission - he had me add an onclick check to the submit button overriding its default behavior, and then another onclick which just returns true. Somehow this confuses some of the bots.
2 - Change the file extension to php from html. I had enabled a handler on the server which sent all html files through the php engine, but he had me change index.html to index3.php and disable the handler. He said this will hide your form from many of the bots, and if your page has php then the extension should be php.
Additional:
3 - Add a hidden field "Valid Captcha" with a default value of "Yes". Then in the onclick submit script set that value to "Null". In the php he wants me to redirect to a 400.html location if not Null. (have not done this yet).
Since I made the changes 4 days ago I have only received one spam mail. Just sharing in case it would help anyone.
1 - Have a custom script for submission - he had me add an onclick check to the submit button overriding its default behavior, and then another onclick which just returns true. Somehow this confuses some of the bots.
2 - Change the file extension to php from html. I had enabled a handler on the server which sent all html files through the php engine, but he had me change index.html to index3.php and disable the handler. He said this will hide your form from many of the bots, and if your page has php then the extension should be php.
Additional:
3 - Add a hidden field "Valid Captcha" with a default value of "Yes". Then in the onclick submit script set that value to "Null". In the php he wants me to redirect to a 400.html location if not Null. (have not done this yet).
Since I made the changes 4 days ago I have only received one spam mail. Just sharing in case it would help anyone.
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Re: Form Spam
Hello, i also made my own kind of Captcha just using WWB fields and som PHP random number code.
It's a long time sense i did this but i'll try to explain if it helps.
1. So i have on field that i named captcha_question and in this field i have the following settings:
Name: captcha_question
Initial value: <?php $random = substr(number_format(time() * rand(),0,'',''),0,6); echo $random?>
Type: text (this can maybe be set to number).
Max. lenght: 0 (this can maybe be set to 6).
You can if you want change the value 6 in the PHP code and in that case also in Max. lenght.
Validation for this field is:
Mode: Default.
Data type: No Constraints.
The style for this field is so you can only see the random code (no borders, backgroud is transparent).
Then before this code i have just a text field whit the text like: Type this code in the box.
2. Now i have a second field named: catpcha_answer.
Typ: number.
Max. lenght: 6.
Validation:
Mode: Default.
Data type: Number.
Data required (checked):
Minimum: 6, Maximum: 6
Match:
This field must have the same value as: (the name of the captcha_question field).
And i think that's it. This way you will have to type in 6 didgits and only 6 didgits to the captcha_answer field
or else you will have an error. I gues this is like some type of hony trap.
Hope this can be of some help.
Regards
//Patrik.
It's a long time sense i did this but i'll try to explain if it helps.
1. So i have on field that i named captcha_question and in this field i have the following settings:
Name: captcha_question
Initial value: <?php $random = substr(number_format(time() * rand(),0,'',''),0,6); echo $random?>
Type: text (this can maybe be set to number).
Max. lenght: 0 (this can maybe be set to 6).
You can if you want change the value 6 in the PHP code and in that case also in Max. lenght.
Validation for this field is:
Mode: Default.
Data type: No Constraints.
The style for this field is so you can only see the random code (no borders, backgroud is transparent).
Then before this code i have just a text field whit the text like: Type this code in the box.
2. Now i have a second field named: catpcha_answer.
Typ: number.
Max. lenght: 6.
Validation:
Mode: Default.
Data type: Number.
Data required (checked):
Minimum: 6, Maximum: 6
Match:
This field must have the same value as: (the name of the captcha_question field).
And i think that's it. This way you will have to type in 6 didgits and only 6 didgits to the captcha_answer field
or else you will have an error. I gues this is like some type of hony trap.
Hope this can be of some help.
Regards
//Patrik.
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Thanks for the detailed response. Appreciate it.