the structure of your software

[Bart Design]

Dear pablo, do you think you will change the structure of your software in the near future?

People want the convenience of being able to view and customize the site on mobile, tablet and desktop with one click. Almost all software providers work with this. Such as figma, webflow, wordpress wix squarspace and many others.

Although the learning curve, I have been using your software since 2013 and it has many advantages. Unfortunately my site is still not responsive... Simply because this is too difficult for me and i can't make it the way i made it for a desktop or my 15.4 inch laptop.

I think your software is outdated and behind the times with regard to other providers such as the programs mentioned earlier.

I hope you take my constructive criticism to heart. I like to hear from you.

[BaconFries]

Unfortunately my site is still not responsive... Simply because this is too difficult for me and i can't make it the way i made it for a desktop or my 15.4 inch laptop.

Personally I think your criticism is uncalled for and is unfair for you to say the software is outdated.The program can be used for creating (RWD) Responsive Web Design. There is a phrase and is the following “a bad workman blames his tools” this means it is the user who is to blame if he or she can't use the tools in this case the software correctly...

Not to sound rude if you can't understand how to use the software to redesign your site to be 'Responsive' then I would consider a career change.

There is also another phrase I have used previously and it is 'You need to learn to walk before you can run'. So before you try to make your own site 'Responsive' you start at the beginning with a very 'Basic' layout learning as you go. There is also many 'Templates' you can tryout to ser how to achieve a 'Responsive' design before you attempt anything more.
I would say you need to read the following urls carefully be criticising Pablo hard work..
Which layout mode should I choose?
viewtopic.php?t=76722

Responsive Web Design FAQ
viewtopic.php?t=63817

[Pablo]

What exactly is wrong with the current structure?

WYSIWYG Web Builder has been supporting all modern responsive web design tools for many years.

To make you website responsive you can:
- use layout grids
- use flex box
- use flex grids
- use fixed/absolute with breakpoints

What are you missing?

Related tutorial:
https://wysiwygwebbuilder.com/layout_modes.html

If you are still using absolute/fixed positioning there are several tools that can help you speed up to optimize the page for tablet and mobile.
https://wysiwygwebbuilder.com/rwd_tools.html

When you use layout grids then this is usually done automatically.

If you need help then please provide a DEMO project so we can point you in the right direction.

[Bart Design]

Unfortunately my site is still not responsive... Simply because this is too difficult for me and i can't make it the way i made it for a desktop or my 15.4 inch laptop.

Personally I think your criticism is uncalled for and is unfair for you to say the software is outdated.The program can be used for creating (RWD) Responsive Web Design. There is a phrase and is the following “a bad workman blames his tools” this means it is the user who is to blame if he or she can't use the tools in this case the software correctly...

Not to sound rude if you can't understand how to use the software to redesign your site to be 'Responsive' then I would consider a career change.

There is also another phrase I have used previously and it is 'You need to learn to walk before you can run'. So before you try to make your own site 'Responsive' you start at the beginning with a very 'Basic' layout learning as you go. There is also many 'Templates' you can tryout to ser how to achieve a 'Responsive' design before you attempt anything more.
I would say you need to read the following urls carefully be criticising Pablo hard work..
Which layout mode should I choose?
viewtopic.php?t=76722

Responsive Web Design FAQ
viewtopic.php?t=63817

[wwonderfull]

The days of using layers have past. Welcome to layout grids. But I wont say everything is easy to do. With proper knowledge and customization everything is possible. We made mobile responsive websites with wwb so we know. You can do it yourself as @pablo has so many tutorials. But If you need any help with your website you can contact us also.

[jerryco]

I was a user at WWB6. I am not technically skilled enough and have accepted that to get into RWD.

Pablo's work deserves a permanent place in the w3.org Hall of Fame though. With proper preparation/skill it is possible to make websites in clean safe code that can even be editted with an online login.

[Bart Design]

Dear BaconFries, I have to laugh a little at your comments... And the fact that you say that I should start practicing another profession makes no sense at all! It's funny how when you give constructive criticism people like you immediately jump on the defensive and start saying stupid things because they can't handle criticism.

You probably disagree with me, but every program that you can use to make a website these days has a mobile, tablet and desktop button to switch quickly and adjust things.

If you don't see the benefit of that, it says something about you.
So in that sense, in my opinion, the software is lagging behind compared to other providers. If you had integrated this, you would certainly be in the top 5 of website builders. Just think about that...

Furthermore, WB is a great program that is not too expensive and is nice to work with.

[Pablo]

but every program that you can use to make a website these days has a mobile, tablet and desktop button to switch quickly and adjust things.

You have been asking for "better toolss" for several year now but you never have been specific about this. That makes it difficult to help you.

I cannot think of any HTML responsive tools that are not already available in WYSIWYG Web Builder.
- use layout grids
- use flex box
- use flex grids
- use fixed/absolute with breakpoints
Which tools are missing?

How do you think all other users make their websites responsive?

For me, it does not make sense to keep on posting criticism without actually asking for what you want.
If you need help, just ask!

[BaconFries]

I have to laugh a little at your comments... And the fact that you say that I should start practicing another profession makes no sense at all!

You can laugh all you want Bart but the comments are valid. I mentioned a change of career simply because you seem to be stuck in the past with how to use the tools in the software and do not want to put any effort into learning how the many new tools object work. With each of the following layout grids, flex box, flex grids or even using fixed/absolute with breakpoints you will achieve a site that Is RWD in everyway.

There are great videos on YouTube that explain in detail how to achieve but if you don't want to take the time to view then you will never learn. I guess you just want the simple (lazy) way and at the press or click of a button hey presto your site is RWD but where is the fun in that. Web design is a art in its own way and you are the artist you just need to learn a new way to use the canvas (the program) or just keep your site as is and not post criticism because you are unwilling to learn.

[onlye]

but every program that you can use to make a website these days has a mobile, tablet and desktop button to switch quickly and adjust things.

So in that sense, in my opinion, the software is lagging behind compared to other providers. If you had integrated this, you would certainly be in the top 5 of website builders. Just think about that...

Furthermore, WB is a great program that is not too expensive and is nice to work with.

I believe I understood what you were saying regarding a development tool that was usable on tablet or mobile. Yes, that is nice. That is not what Wizzy is. Wizzy is a Windows (Quick 'n Easy Web Builder for MacOS/Linux) visual development tool that creates modern code that you then transfer/upload/publish to a hosting site. It is not an online web builder like all the products you reference. That does not make Wizzy or the others good or bad; it makes them different tools.

With most of the online developer tools you reference, you are tied to their platform; Weebly, Wix, Squarespace, Webflow, etc.

I changed development tools about four years ago. After much consideration, my criteria was a Windows development tool that allowed me to use whatever hosting my customer or I chose. I did not want to be tied to a "platform," I selected Wizzy, and it continues to confirm that I made the best possible choice.

Here is some simple math. I use a reseller hosting account that costs me $420 per year. I host over 40 sites with room to spare. That's $ 0.80 per site per month. If I used Wix, it would be $16 per month per site or $192 per year. So my 40 sites would cost $7680 per year. I also do contract work for a friend's company. I showed him Wizzy as an alternative to Weebly. He has a $1000 annual hosting package and hosts around 150 sites. On Weebly, it was costing him $8 per site per month. That's a savings of about $12,000 annually.

So Wizzy is a different product from the online development platforms you referenced. You should evaluate your criteria and select the best product for you and your needs. Wanting a hammer to be a screwdriver is not the answer.

Best wishes for you.

[BaconFries]

Wanting a hammer to be a screwdriver is not the answer.

Love this quote..

[VictorKrs]

Hello!
I can't afford to limit myself to the "Read only" mode.
I appeal to the current, past and future critics of the program ...
It is necessary to understand that each software has its own positioning. Some programs are focused on a poorly trained user and /or focused on getting a quick and effortless result (for example, MS Paint), other users need more flexible, professional tools with significantly greater capabilities for implementing ideas and tasks (for example, Adobe Photoshop). WWB is not WIX ... and that's fine! It is necessary to determine to the user what is close and suitable for him, that's all!
Personally, after suffering with the WIX online constructor, which has a whole heap of "advantages", I started looking for a desktop program for website development... and suddenly WWB found a wonderful and random image, which I am very happy about now. I didn't understand a lot of things, it didn't work out, but I studied, read, asked in the forum... Now I can state that WWB is an excellent visual designer with the widest
possibilities for creating websites and implementing creative ideas. The author of the program, in my opinion, does everything very logically, correctly and professionally. The support of the program, users and the frequency of updates of the program, new extensions and the formed group of active users is very valuable!
Total:
1. WWB super product! Personally, I have become a fan of WWB!
2. Great respect and appreciation to Pablo for the result of his work, which we all use in our work.
3. Thanks to the entire community of dedicated users (thanks separately to "crispy68").
4. I am really looking forward to further development of WWB!
Pablo!
I wish you strength and confidence that you are doing everything right!

[Bart Design]

Dear Pablo, If I was not satisfied and only criticized I would have left long ago.

I have asked you several times, even personally via email with a print screen, and informed you about this subject. The answer I got was a reference with a link to make the site responsive. It was never my intention to offend or criticize you. Have a nice weekend.

[Pablo]

I really want to help you, but in my opinion the tools you are asking for already exists.
In the past you have sent me several email asking for 'better responsive tools' and I did reply to all those messages with links to tutorials and other documentation.
You never send a follow up on those emails.
So the question is: haven't you found them or do you have trouble using the them?

Is it clear for you what you need to do to make your website responsive?
If not, then what keeps you from doing it? How can I help?

Also, what makes you think the other software have better tools? Did you try to create the same website you have now with those tools?
Are you aware that these tools usually only support 1 response layout system while WWB has multiple layout options?

The one you are currently using for your website is 'fixed/absolute layout'. The other tools do not even have even support that!

[Bart Design]

Dear Pablo, I told you a long time ago that I am dyslexic. Sometimes I can read something 10 times but it doesn't get through. And if it doesn't work after so many tries, I get frustrated and throw in the towel.

As for the other tools I mention; I once bought a live time theme from Divi wordpress, but this did not work for me either.

Because I've been working for so long and have a beautiful website in itself, it only needs to be responsive because this is a hard requirement from google because the majority of people search on their mobile.

I notice that I'm through it and actually don't feel like putting a lot of energy into this anymore. However, I would like everything to work properly and I no longer have to worry about this, and only have to massage what I am good at. And occasionally I can add a blog topic to my site, which I don't get around to at all now.

I have a quote from a company to make my site responsive with keyword research, hosting, etc. However, this is what I don't like to work with in Wordpress.

I'll let everything rest for a while and see what I'm going to do. Anyway, thanks for all your help so far. Have a nice weekend.

[Pablo]

Ok, but why do you keep asking for "better tools" if they already exists?
What if, what you want is not possible?
What I mean by this is: your current website was created with absolute/fixed layout. There is no way to make this website responsive without using breakpoints. Other tools also cannot do that.
The reason for this is that you will need to tell the browser how to adapt the layout for different screens and because the layout is absolute/fixed that can only be done with breakpoints.
On the other hand, when using flexible layout (like most other web design tools) then this is done (almost) automatically. And this is also supported by WWB!

So, basically you have 3 options:

Option 1:
Try to understand breakpoints and update your existing. This will be least amount of work.

Option 2:
Re-design your website to use flexible layout, so it automatically adapts to different screen sizes.
In this case, you can reuse all existing objects (text, images etc) but you will need to place them in grids.

Option 3:
Use a different tool, in that case you will have from start from scratch

[brynj]

Just reading this thread and just a thought …. Maybe someone on here could quote him to convert his existing website to responsive and send it too him. He could then review it and see/understand how it has been achieved and either publish ‘as is’ or make any amendment before publishing.

[wwonderfull]

@bart As devices have gotten modern so has how we use the latest way of making a website. The most important part to understand is if a website does not have flex layout and breakpoints it will never be responsive for all or modern devices.

Puting the magic on the button is not the solution but how you use layouts to make the website responsive without the button is truly the magical solution. That is the art of wwb.

[onlye]

I have a quote from a company to make my site responsive with keyword research, hosting, etc. However, this is what I don't like to work with in Wordpress.

Bart,

A possible option may be to see if a developer on the forum is interested in working with you to update your site with Wizzy. When asking for a quote you should ask them to add a bit of extra time to explain and train you on how and what features are being used to update your site.

BTW, do you mind sharing your current site URL?

Again, wishing you the best.

[crispy68]

@bart,

I'd be interested in possibly converting it for you. Need to see the site and need to know how many pages. You can contact me directly at ron@wizbangwebdesign.com if you prefer.

[Bart Design]

Thanks everybody for all your suggestions and advice. My website is www.massagework.nl

Perhaps my biggest handicap is that I am too perfectionistic and want to make it too beautiful.

I worked with the grid for months and I think I tried everything, but the text and images kept shifting and I couldn't get it the way I wanted it.

The only way to make my site responsive is to do this with breakpoints so that I can organize everything myself. Although this is now an outdated method, it gives the best result. Although this takes a lot of work

[crispy68]

In looking at your design, it looks to me that it would be pretty simple to convert it to using grids, etc. with maybe a few breakpoints.

[Bluesman]

Thanks everybody for all your suggestions and advice. My website is www.massagework.nl

Perhaps my biggest handicap is that I am too perfectionistic and want to make it too beautiful.

I worked with the grid for months and I think I tried everything, but the text and images kept shifting and I couldn't get it the way I wanted it.

The only way to make my site responsive is to do this with breakpoints so that I can organize everything myself. Although this is now an outdated method, it gives the best result. Although this takes a lot of work

Agree with crispy68, looks good and would be easy to convert into full responsive. Let crispy give it a goo... and you'll be happily surprised

[onlye]

Agree with crispy68, looks good and would be easy to convert into full responsive. Let crispy give it a goo... and you'll be happily surprised

crispy68 has helped me on several projects. he does excellent work technically and visually.

[wwonderfull]

Thanks everybody for all your suggestions and advice. My website is www.massagework.nl

Perhaps my biggest handicap is that I am too perfectionistic and want to make it too beautiful.

I worked with the grid for months and I think I tried everything, but the text and images kept shifting and I couldn't get it the way I wanted it.

The only way to make my site responsive is to do this with breakpoints so that I can organize everything myself. Although this is now an outdated method, it gives the best result. Although this takes a lot of work

At first look I thought it was responsive but unfortunately, but seeing the design yes I think it is possible to convert it to responsive layout. @crispy can surely do it easily still if you need extra help I can also help you out too. Let me know if you need.

[Bart Design]

@ wwonderfull. Dear Web builder users, thanks again for all the help offered. It would be great if someone could help me to gain more insight. You can reach me through my website.

[alan_sh]

I think an apology to Pablo wouldn't go amiss.

Alan