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my customer once needed the ability to edit pages on his website and i chose CushyCMS for that purpose, but now he needs to also add new pages. I've never tried WWB CMS tools before, but i wanted something easy (for me and for him). is there any easy possible solutions out there? what are your thoughts on that? thank you
Mary
"It was always my belief that rock and roll belonged in the hands of the people, not rock stars" - Patti Smith
I have several customers who edit some of their own pages. I started with PHPJabbers Simple CMS and still have a couple of sites that use it, but newer sites (and migrations) use the Editable Content within Wizzy. I don't have anyone that wants to create new pages. Wizzy is not the best fit for that, and I don't usually cater to those type customers.
How elaborate does your customer want to be with the format and layout of pages they create themselves?
thank you for the quick response. Well... he just wants to create new pages like in WordPress, but the easy way, imagine editable content with the option to addd new pages, as simple as that. I'm thinking about diving into CMS Tools, I don't see any other option, which of course will take up more of my time. As for now i will use CushyCMS and create the new pages myself, until i implement the CMS tools.
Mary
"It was always my belief that rock and roll belonged in the hands of the people, not rock stars" - Patti Smith
You could create some blank pages and add the CMS placeholders to the pages where your client could add their content. The issue would be the menu for the new pages.
Let me know what you discover and how it works out.
Thoughts on letting him purchase and download a copy of WB and hand over a copy of the working file? Or could put that working file on a shared drive in the cloud?
You'll always be a safety net to send a backup if something breaks.
Abigail, Is the csm you are wanting for blogging or creating pages with gallery images videos and forms or even menus? What does the client hope to create or even edit...
wwonderfull wrote: ↑Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:24 am
Abigail, Is the csm you are wanting for blogging or creating pages with gallery images videos and forms or even menus? What does the client hope to create or even edit...
Hi wwonderfull
my friend (customer) wants to add simple content like text, video links, download links for PDFs, photos, simple things like that. I think I'll go ahead with WWB CMS Tools as the next step (he intends to add new web pages to the website).
Mary
"It was always my belief that rock and roll belonged in the hands of the people, not rock stars" - Patti Smith
Consider a rebranded version of WWB. It looks like Pablo can custom it for you under your brand and restrict certain things.
Or I would do Robs suggestion.
I do find that WWB works better for techy people that work with it regularly. It does have a learning curve. I also find wwb is amazing in a lot of ways but I think of cms as a different beast all together.
Just food for thought - i never found giving clients control a great idea. If you're the expert - why are they adjusting things? One mess up, and you can spend hours trying to figure out what they did.
johnsmith0251 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:01 pm
Just food for thought - i never found giving clients control a great idea. If you're the expert - why are they adjusting things? One mess up, and you can spend hours trying to figure out what they did.
True because most of the time they mess up things and tell to fix it which is not primarily the developers work. If anyone would want I could create such system so they could do that but I think it is too much work and not sure what they are paying for it and even if they do I think it is more like replacing the developers work with the cms which is not the purpose of having the client.
CMS is the reason I think WP boomed as it could be self managed but with great plugins comes great hackablity because security should be the first priority on any cms.
I don't use or like it, but WP has its place and has just as many drawbacks as advantages over software like WWB. But if the client is at that level, they are way too small to bring ongoing value to you.
If a business owner has the time to do these things themselves or just wants a "simple" website, they don't believe in what they do enough to invest in themselves, don't believe in your work, or doesn't see how digital levels up their business in a way they value.
Most businesses at this level value cash flow the most, so you can only expect to sell them something ongoing if you can directly show them how your work will do that.
johnsmith0251 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2024 8:01 pm
Just food for thought - i never found giving clients control a great idea. If you're the expert - why are they adjusting things? One mess up, and you can spend hours trying to figure out what they did.
True because most of the time they mess up things and tell to fix it which is not primarily the developers work. If anyone would want I could create such system so they could do that but I think it is too much work and not sure what they are paying for it and even if they do I think it is more like replacing the developers work with the cms which is not the purpose of having the client.
CMS is the reason I think WP boomed as it could be self managed but with great plugins comes great hackablity because security should be the first priority on any cms.
I totally get where you're coming from. I’ve had good luck with WordPress for clients needing to add and edit pages easily. It's pretty straightforward, especially with the block editor, and there are tons of plugins to customize things. Wix is another great option if you want something really simple—my friend used it for a small business site, and they loved how easy it was to drag and drop elements.
